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United States loses prized AAA credit rating

Seeded on Sat Aug 6, 2011 11:31 PM EDT
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This is a result of the Tea Party and their effort to defeat President Obama in 2012. Now we get to watch our 401K's and IRAs drop like a rock as a result in their debt ceiling meddling.

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Allen Coat

Our Country is headed down a rocky road thanks to the Tea Party. If we don't get these zealots out of office in 2012, then we are doomed to a long decay, of the average Americans life.

  • 5 votes
Reply#1 - Sat Aug 6, 2011 11:33 PM EDT
Roy Batty

If we simply passed a clean debt ceiling bill this would not have happened. Instead, the credit agencies focus (like the rest of us) was turned to both the subject of the debt and government's inability to cooperate to do anything about it.

Good job, Tea Party. Fixing our problems will now be even more expensive.

  • 5 votes
Reply#2 - Sun Aug 7, 2011 12:16 AM EDT
Underground Sanity 2

You absolutely correctly point out that the "crisis" was a manufactured problem created by the GOP demand that the debt ceiling issue be tied to deficit reduction. One is an immediate function and the other a long range planning issue. As has been noted, the credit of the US was held hostage. Absurdly, the GOP leaders now want to place blame on the Administration for the damage that the GOP's political circus ploy has created. Unfortunately, most people do not recognize that the GOP is only competent at obstruction and shifting blame, they are totally incompetent at actually governing.

  • 2 votes
#2.1 - Sun Aug 7, 2011 12:57 AM EDT
Allen Coat

Roy and Underground, thanks for your comments and I agree with you analysis.

  • 2 votes
#2.2 - Sun Aug 7, 2011 12:38 PM EDT
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David Noah

Maybe the American People should be thankful to the Tea Party Movement. If something didn't happen to challenge the Status Quo in Washington it would have been business as usual. The Democrats and Republicans would have raised the dept limit and continued our unsustainable deficit spending without question until all of sudden we find ourselves in the same position as Greece and Ireland.

It might be painfull now but how much more painful would it have been a decade or two from now when our children would have to deal with it? How responsible is it to push off our problems onto our children?

Perhaps you haven't seen the U.S. National dept clock recently?

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

Dept per citizen = $46,743.00

Dept per taxpayer = $130,322.00

U.S federal revenue = $2.2 trillion

U.S. Spending = $3.6 trillion

Every year we are adding 1.4 trillion dollars to our dept. How long do you think we can spend 1.4 trillion more than we take in before we go bankrupt?

Why don't you try running your finances that way and let us know how it works for you?

    Reply#3 - Sun Aug 7, 2011 12:22 AM EDT
    Underground Sanity 2

    QUOTE: "One thing that puts them [S&P] out in uncharted waters is trying to predict what the political environment is going to be," Rep. Neugebauer said. "They're not predicting an overly cooperative environment in Congress and that's a very subjective call."

    The S&P downgrade decision cited its prediction that the political divisiveness in Washington would lead to the failure to allow expiration of the Bush Tax Cuts and a blockade of any tax or revenue enhancements thereby further reducing the revenue side of the budget equation. Any simpleton knows that you cannot cut your way out of a deficit, as recovery and balance comes from increased revenue via growth in the economy or tax increases or both. Even if spending were kept flat or reduced, the deficit would not be resolved without additional revenue.

    Based upon the way the legislative process has been conducted and held hostage to the economically dimwitted Tea Party zealots, the position taken by S&P is not speculative or "subjective" at all. It is a virtual certainty that the past few months will be repeated as long as Boehner, Cantor and McConnell are in leadership positions. Those in the GOP seeking highest office, like Romney and Bachman, are even more ill informed and reckless. So S&P cannot be criticized for expecting more of the same. There is literally no basis for predicting otherwise

    • 1 vote
    Reply#4 - Sun Aug 7, 2011 12:49 AM EDT
    IndependentVoter

    The Tea Party signed the bill into law?

    • 1 vote
    Reply#5 - Sun Aug 7, 2011 12:50 AM EDT
    Underground Sanity 2

    Of course not, but any idiot understands that for the President to veto the bill would have caused default. Would you have vetoed the bill under the circumstances?

    The Tea Party caucus refused to allow the House leadership to engage in good faith negotiation, even when spending reductions initially demanded were conceded. To insist that there be no revenue enhancements, even through closing loopholes for tax evasion by the rich was ideological extremism, not governance.

    • 3 votes
    #5.1 - Sun Aug 7, 2011 1:02 AM EDT
    IndependentVoter

    Under Obama, the government over the last two and a half years has borrowed on average about $4 billion each day. That staggering sum is far in excess of the $1.6 billion per day borrowed during the eight-year tenure of George W. Bush.

    Obama will add nearly $5.5 Trillion (more than a third of the total debt of a nation 222 years old) to the nation's balance sheet. His narcissism and lifelong history of receiving public adulation will not allow him to comprehend the damage.

    And the Debt Deal? LOL The Democrats miscalculated. By rejecting everyone else's plan while offering no plan of his own, the President effectively took himself out of the game. That seems to be the liberal reading as well.

    From the Gray Lady -

    Maureen Dowd quotes a Democrat as saying we're watching President Obama "turn into Jimmy Carter right before our eyes." The headline over Paul Krugman's column declares, "The President Surrenders." Equally gloomy is the editorial: "To Escape Chaos, a Terrible Deal."

    Most argue that the president should have stood his liberal ground.

    The problem with this view is that the more people see the president, the less they seem to like what he's selling.

    Mr. Obama got a deal that takes him past next year's election, and can play himself up as the greater compromiser. The price, however, was high.

    Effectively he has surrendered to the Republican framework for debate on taxes and spending.

    OBAMA CAVED

    • 1 vote
    #5.2 - Sun Aug 7, 2011 1:18 AM EDT
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    Colorado Bubbie

    they now join most of the rest of society, no income, big debt and crappy credit rating...

    • 1 vote
    Reply#6 - Sun Aug 7, 2011 4:19 AM EDT
    Allen Coat

    Colorado, thanks for the comment and sad but true.

    • 2 votes
    #6.1 - Sun Aug 7, 2011 12:39 PM EDT
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