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Bachmann backers to Perry: She's the 'honest conservative' in the race

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An honest Conservative is a long reach, but Bachmann and Perry, it's just a toss of the coin who is the least honest.

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Allen Coat

Please, when it comes to honesty, Perry and Bachmann are at the other end of the spectrum.

  • 17 votes
#1 - Thu Sep 1, 2011 9:34 PM EDT
petridishofideas

The welfare queen ......honest???? yea, riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. :smirk:

OK.....she IS more "honest" than porno perry but that isn't saying much!

  • 10 votes
#1.1 - Thu Sep 1, 2011 9:47 PM EDT
Fla Pat

Is Bachmann truthful when saying as President she will have the country show major economic improvement in one quarter? If she has any sense at all she knows the time span for policies to work are measured in years, not 3 months, so either she is ignorant or is lying about the time frame she notes.

Also was she not caught in false hoods about attending a family reunion in Iowa just this past month? The woman tends to embellish.

  • 8 votes
#1.2 - Thu Sep 1, 2011 10:19 PM EDT
oldecrankyman

It's a hair battle all the way. What they say is mostly unimportant, except for how many times they bash that funny looking president.

Being mostly conservative, I wonder how long Mr Eisenhower would last in what passes for conservative politics these days.

Where am I, and why am I in this handbasket?

  • 7 votes
#1.3 - Thu Sep 1, 2011 10:48 PM EDT
SuperSaiyan

Please, when it comes to honesty, Perry and Bachmann are at the other end of the spectrum.

To say the least...

  • 7 votes
#1.4 - Thu Sep 1, 2011 10:57 PM EDT
iceman6

Bachmann and Perry are both ignorant fools, what's to choose from?

  • 10 votes
#1.5 - Thu Sep 1, 2011 11:00 PM EDT
DS12

Please, when it comes to honesty, Perry and Bachmann are at the other end of the spectrum.

Allen you are too kind......they begin at the spectrum of disinformation or otherwise known as lieing..

  • 3 votes
#1.6 - Thu Sep 1, 2011 11:11 PM EDT
Allen Coat

Thanks for your comments, and Pat I think embellish is an understatement. lol

  • 4 votes
#1.7 - Thu Sep 1, 2011 11:14 PM EDT
iceman6

Actually, looking at the Fox Poll, Whacky Backy is done, her 15 are over so not much problem there.

  • 4 votes
#1.8 - Thu Sep 1, 2011 11:42 PM EDT
buttzie

Could it be? Now this would be the scary part... that she actually believes she's being honest. In other words, too stupid to know any better.

  • 5 votes
#1.9 - Fri Sep 2, 2011 12:24 AM EDT
Smith Cassidy

I hope the verbal slugfest goes on and on and on...

  • 5 votes
#1.10 - Fri Sep 2, 2011 12:44 AM EDT
YELLOW DOG D.

Yes, SC, the more the merrier.

  • 3 votes
#1.11 - Fri Sep 2, 2011 12:59 AM EDT
Reliant

I believe that Bachmann truly believes the line she spouts, while I am equally convinced that Perry is as phony as a three dollar bill. Between an fool and a sociopath, no real choice there; I'll go with Huntsman.

  • 6 votes
#1.12 - Fri Sep 2, 2011 2:50 AM EDT
TPisFORtheBATHROOM101

Now serving gaffe #665...The obvious statement retract tomorrow? I meant the 'least honest conservative.'

  • 2 votes
#1.13 - Fri Sep 2, 2011 3:16 AM EDT
blll

I'm pretty sure the "honest conservative" is Ron Paul.

But he could never win the GOP nomination for obvious reasons.

  • 3 votes
#1.14 - Fri Sep 2, 2011 3:34 AM EDT
DS12

Bill...

LOL at Paul being "Honest".....

Never for me because of his civil right comments.....How he wouldnt vote for it.....that says alot about his view on equal rights or more accurately "support of equal rights as long as you look like him"

  • 5 votes
#1.15 - Fri Sep 2, 2011 3:43 AM EDT
jmorris

iceman6

Actually, looking at the Fox Poll, Whacky Backy is done, her 15 are over so not much problem there.

Yeah, they got a "Conservative" man in the race now (Perry), time for the womenfolk to get back to the kitchen.

  • 4 votes
#1.16 - Fri Sep 2, 2011 6:45 AM EDT
iceman6

I am not expecting Bachmann to go quietly. Watch for more and more outrageous nonsense from her in the near future ... gotta keep preaching to the peanut gallery.

Watch Perry push his Texas miracle bought with deficit and federal dollars. The boy is a closet Keynesian. But the Texas miracle will unwind pretty quickly and WAY before the election.

Bachmann is certainly more "honest". The ignorant buffoon actually believes the nonsense she spouts. Perry is a pandering ignorant buffoon. He doesn't believe a word of the nonsense he is feeding his idiotic "base".

  • 2 votes
#1.17 - Fri Sep 2, 2011 7:41 AM EDT
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b dune

She may be the "honest conservative"......but don't forget to add on "The most misinformed conservative" as well!

  • 5 votes
Reply#2 - Thu Sep 1, 2011 10:15 PM EDT
oldecrankyman

Ms Bachman and hubby have taken advantage of multiple federal handouts. She is in no way shape or form conservative, unless one equates religious fundamentalism with conservatism.

  • 7 votes
#2.1 - Thu Sep 1, 2011 10:55 PM EDT
Allen Coat

b dune, I don't know if she is misinformed or just makes up whatever comes into her mind.

  • 4 votes
#2.2 - Thu Sep 1, 2011 11:17 PM EDT
Ggap

She may be the "honest conservative"......

What they mean by "honest" is that she does not pretend to be anything other than simple minded, as compared to the others.

  • 1 vote
#2.3 - Fri Sep 2, 2011 12:53 PM EDT
beej mcl

Ms Bachman and hubby have taken advantage of multiple federal handouts.

and then claims that they did not benefit from them. they included them in their income statements yet claim they didn't benefit from them????????????? she claimed she hadn't seen a dime of federal moneys yet claimed them on their income statements????????????

how do you reconcile something like this? what did she think the money was, she was after all a tax attorney.

  • 3 votes
#2.4 - Sat Sep 3, 2011 7:50 AM EDT
iceman6

how do you reconcile something like this?

Easy, she is a moron.

  • 4 votes
#2.5 - Sat Sep 3, 2011 7:59 AM EDT
Allen Coat

iceman, she is more like a pathological liar, and also a moron.

  • 3 votes
#2.6 - Sat Sep 3, 2011 8:51 AM EDT
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Studiusbagus

This is going to get thick as time goes on and we have a lot of time. By the time that they are done they will both be "Done" and not electable.

I would tend to think that questions of her stability will erupt soon, headache anyone? And it will go down hill from there, a crook or a nutjob with headaches will be the final choice according to them. For Pete's sake I sure hope someone gets some backbone over in the Republican camp and actually endorses someone worth looking at.

I'm still thinking as I have said before, the Republicans do not want this yet. They will let Obama win and sit in the cheap seats still throwing grenades and not helping. The best that can happen is they lose enough seats that their biggest problem won't be the Dems, it'll be the spawn called "The Tea Party" they have to deal with....and they will, but they have one more use for the Tea Party, Lose the election and then be shamed in to obscurity.

  • 9 votes
Reply#3 - Thu Sep 1, 2011 10:25 PM EDT
Fla Pat

By the time that they are done they will both be "Done" and not electable.

Your points are well noted, but do we need time to tell us that? I am of the opinion neither are electable now.

  • 6 votes
#3.1 - Thu Sep 1, 2011 10:50 PM EDT
Zydor

the Republicans do not want this yet. They will let Obama win and sit in the cheap seats still throwing grenades and not helping

Yup. Republican Moderates did not see the Theocratic Threat coming until it was too late, they were in disarray after the slaughter of 2008. However, they know now the only way they will eject the Tea Party and return the GOP to sanity and Democracy, is join with moderate Independents at the Polls, and help the Democrats crush the Tea Party 2012.

The Tea Party are too egotistical to understand that there is no way will an American Electorate ever vote a Theocrat into the White House - the American Voter does ........ and 2012 will hand back a Moderate Party to the Republicans, and 2014 will be the final desert special mopping up Tea Party diehards. Thats as certain as night follows day, never mind short term thinkers and Polls driven by ad revenue.

  • 6 votes
#3.2 - Fri Sep 2, 2011 2:08 AM EDT
Studiusbagus

" Republican Moderates did not see the Theocratic Threat coming until it was too late, they were in disarray after the slaughter of 2008."

To some extent I agree, they didn't expect the rise of the Dominionists. But I think the plan all along is to skip two election cycles, better to stay relevent in the cheap seats than taking charge and responsibility for the economic debacle that happened. Let Obama and the Dems sit in those seats but don't let them succeed. Let the Tea Party expose their crazy people and they will self destruct. They shoved Palin in there to sabotage McCain's campaign and now are letting the Tea Party show themselves, and sabotage this election. The Tea Party thinks they have the Republicans by the balls. Nothing of the sort. The Republicans are going to dump them over the side in public after the next election.

Come 2016 election cycle they will start to preach to the young ones, those that were 8 years old during Bush's term and looking for jobs during Obama's term....ripe for picking.

Boehner and Gingrich will be gone and the young guns that survive today will be the statesmen tomorrow. The GOP has a plan, and it ain't gonna be pretty for us.

  • 3 votes
#3.3 - Fri Sep 2, 2011 9:00 AM EDT
YELLOW DOG D.

Republicans were planning shrub and cheny's reign since Tricky Dick. They have the wealth to have the staying power. If we do not wake up and install more financial regulations, recovery will stall more than now.

  • 2 votes
#3.4 - Fri Sep 2, 2011 10:12 AM EDT
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oldecrankyman

Your points are well noted, but do we need time to tell us that? I am of the opinion neither are electable now.

That would seem to be obvious, but it's also obvious that the vast majority of people vote based on criteria that are foreign to me.

  • 3 votes
Reply#4 - Thu Sep 1, 2011 11:00 PM EDT
Allen Coat

olde- Thanks for your comment and I agree, since most people don't pay attention to politics. I think attack ads, are what sway voters that don't automatically vote Democratic or Tea Party.

  • 2 votes
#4.1 - Thu Sep 1, 2011 11:23 PM EDT
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Emmadadog

Politics has always been a dog eat dog business.

We can only hope these two live up to the image.

  • 4 votes
Reply#5 - Thu Sep 1, 2011 11:08 PM EDT
rick-2988168

two teabaggers bashing each other. "it don't get any betta's than tis Cletas". praise the lord and pass the ammmunition, the trailer park is under attack.

  • 8 votes
Reply#6 - Thu Sep 1, 2011 11:49 PM EDT
ZenFreedom

LMAO, I couldn't have said it better myself. I can't wait to see the teabaggers really turn on themselves and eat each other for dinner.

  • 6 votes
#6.1 - Sun Sep 4, 2011 11:28 AM EDT
iceman6

We need popcorn and beer and a ring side seat.

  • 6 votes
#6.2 - Sun Sep 4, 2011 11:38 AM EDT
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steven-791492

It will be fun watching the tea party children ripping into each other.

  • 7 votes
Reply#7 - Thu Sep 1, 2011 11:56 PM EDT
Village Idiot-2299796

Answer: Because Eventually, There'll Be An Election Campaign ...

Question: Why save all those silly Presidential wanna be quotes?

  • 3 votes
Reply#8 - Fri Sep 2, 2011 12:24 AM EDT
oldecrankyman

Wow, political Jeopardy, I'm in Alex.

  • 2 votes
#8.1 - Fri Sep 2, 2011 12:41 AM EDT
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Kenneth Fairfax

An honest Conservative is a long reach

A lie about lyres. How pathetic.

  • 3 votes
Reply#9 - Fri Sep 2, 2011 12:31 AM EDT
Allen Coat

Kenneth, I should clarify my statement, I'm talking about Conservative politicians, not individual Conservatives.

  • 1 vote
#9.1 - Fri Sep 2, 2011 10:39 AM EDT
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samenslow

"Social Conservative" and "Conservative" are mutually exclusive terms. Mr. Conservative, Barry Goldwater, pointed this out when he attacked the so called Moral Majority. He also stated his campaign was to conserve gold and water, not just the gold. The "Social Conservatives" are actually Liberals in wolves clothing in that they want government control over our personal, private lives and decisions. The difference is that want to eliminate and exclude people rather than include them.

  • 2 votes
Reply#10 - Fri Sep 2, 2011 2:54 AM EDT
LimeInfinity

The only honest Conservative is Ron Paul, saying it like it is, and being a champ.

A conservative, ending wars, following the Constitution, and cutting out all the bull @!$%# of government. That's what I'll vote for.

  • 1 vote
Reply#11 - Fri Sep 2, 2011 3:52 AM EDT
samenslow

Ron Paul believes it is he and not SCOTUS that determines what is constitutional or not. He worries about there really being gold in Ft. Knox when as a congressman he could arrange to inspect it with any experts he wants to bring any time he wants, but that would kill another non-issue of his. The man is full of hot air, but keeping the money flowing to the Republicans rather than the Libertarians.

  • 3 votes
#11.1 - Fri Sep 2, 2011 5:06 AM EDT
demo scout

Well, limey, you go ahead and vote for Ronnie. But remember when you do that you are also voting for someone who just said on the heels of Hurricane Irene that the government has no business protecting the people from natural disasters or rescuing and helping them afterwards. He said we should do disaster relief like we did back in 1900 with no government help and the local communities and the states did what they could. Only problem is that he forgets that there were no weather warnings back then from the national weather service, no advance preparations by a FEMA or any of the states, and no planned and pre-organized relief efforts, and literally tens of thousands of people died whenever there was a serious natural or man made disaster, including that one he talked about in the gulf in 1900 that killed 40 thousand long before he was a twinkle in his father's eye.

Yeah, limey, you vote for him, he's just as good as any of the other right wing government haters and know nothings. But if he wins you had better make sure you don't live along any coast, over any geological fault lines, anywhere near tornado alley, or near any chemical plants or refineries or liquid gas terminals, or anywhere that a terrorist might choose as a target, like say Oklahoma City or the gay pride parade route in Seattle.

  • 3 votes
#11.2 - Fri Sep 2, 2011 12:21 PM EDT
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Minan59

An "honest conservative" is an oxymoron.

  • 2 votes
Reply#12 - Fri Sep 2, 2011 10:29 AM EDT
demo scout

The latest polls show that Bachmann has slipped to a distant third behind Perry and Romney, and she is doing particularly badly matched up against Perry among the Tea Party. I am therefore compelled to reverse the question that has so often been jibed at liberals about Bachmann and/or Palin. Why is the Tea Party so afraid of Bachmann?

Could it be that she is nuts? No, Perry is just as nuts. Could it be that she is dumb? No, Perry is reputed to be dumb as a box of rocks. Could it be that She is perceived as someone who can't win the general? No, Perry is so far right that it is generally perceived that he can't win the general either, and the polls show it. Could it be that she is religiously too far out? No, Perry is also promoting himself as a dominionist Christian, a creationist, a denier of science, an anti-abortion zealot, an anti-gay homophobe, etc.

I know, it must be that she is a woman. Among the many prejudices of the far right we all know that deep down they will chose a man over a woman for any serious job every time, because they believe that a woman should basically stay in her place and serve her man as she is told, unless they can't find a man to do the job. That is actually their written doctrine.

  • 5 votes
Reply#13 - Fri Sep 2, 2011 12:05 PM EDT
YELLOW DOG D.

Correct, Demo.

  • 3 votes
#13.1 - Fri Sep 2, 2011 12:07 PM EDT
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AhhCrap

The budget was balanced this year, as Perry claims, but the state legislature will have to revisit the budget in January because lawmakers relied on tentative projections, Henson said.

I cannot understand how this creative accounting can be legal or acceptable.

  • 4 votes
Reply#14 - Fri Sep 2, 2011 11:39 PM EDT
samenslow

Texas is the home of Enron. They know how do do creative accounting.

  • 6 votes
#14.1 - Sat Sep 3, 2011 1:26 AM EDT
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